154. In Mexico with Weller 107 and Eagle Rare

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Yeah, we're down in the Riviera Maya of Mexico. About halfway between Cancun and Cozumel. Yeah, Cosmills Island, but I would say Playa del Carmen or Tulum. Halfway between there's about a 30 minute van ride down from the airport to here. Beautiful resort. We've been here. This is our fifth trip down here. So we asked you guys if you wanted to come. Came down here for vacation. 10 day vacation.

We got almost a week behind us. Well, six days, right? Six days? I've been counting. I don't even know what day it is. I know we got like four days left. Four days left. Yeah. So we're settled in here. We've got the whole routine down. We haven't been here before, but we feel like we kind of know the place a little bit now after a few days. So we decided to record an episode.

We brought some bottles with us, though. We knew they didn't have anything but Jim Beam down here, right? Which is respectable to have it.

I'm glad they do, but I haven't taken any Jim Beam yet, have you?

Well, I did some one day. Oh, that's right. You had a mule, didn't you? A mule. But they have some other whiskies here. They have some Irish whiskies. They have some Scotches. They got some Johnny Walker, Red Label and Black Label. So that's still respectable for a Scotch drinker, but a bourbon drinker needs a little bit of bourbon too.

You know, I've been drinking my other bourbon all week, gin, gin and tonics all week. I figured if I'm going to be down here in the jungle, I better protect myself from a little bit of malaria. So I'm taking my tonic water. No, actually I'm taking my gin and tonic just happens to be there.

So we got a bunch of new roadies here. We, we. gathered some roadies up. We brought them over here. We're going to let them taste some of this. The first bourbon we're going to taste today is an Eagle Rare store pick. Me and you had recorded an episode with Bernie Lubbers. Yep. We were downtown. We looked at social media. We saw some of our friends were downtown. LaHannah from Copper and Oak, right? Yep. Over in Danville. She was downtown doing an episode at Rabbit Hole. And we decided we'd go have dinner with her. Had dinner with her. We saw that they had a store pick. And both of us had to snatch a bottle. Yeah.

And they had a few store picks there. So good spot to go and have a few drinks, have a good dinner. And then of course, you know, as you're getting ready to go, you can look at their three or four or five bottles of picks they have there. It looked like they had some good ones. It's just the Eagle Rare kind of got my attention.

I bought that bottle and a bottle of the limestone weeded. You know, I got that sweet tooth, so I had to have a bottle of the weeded, but Eagle Rare, been around since 1975. It was created by Seagrams and then Seagrams sold out and they sold it to Sazerac. Now it used to be 101 proof. It's been proofed out in 90. The store picks are pretty nice though. Even though this is a 10 year bourbon, they used to be a, they were non-single barrel. Then it was a single barrel and now it's back to a non-single barrel. But this is a true single barrel.

Right. Well, my, I always heard that they poured them out of the one barrel at a time until it filled up and then they rolled the next barrel in sort of. So it wasn't really a true single barrel, but it kind of worked out that way. I mean, you can get one that had a little bit of one, a little bit of the other in it. They weren't guaranteed to be. Well, anyway, so I used to have 10 years on the front that went, uh, 10 years on the neck, nearly to 10 years on the back. It's still on there.

It still says it's kind of hidden. You have to look a little bit now.

You got to worry a little bit when a bourbon starts moving their age statement from very prominent on the neck of the bottle down to the front, a little bit smaller, and then they move it to the back of the bottle in small print. You're kind of thinking it might go away after that, but I don't know. I think we're kind of past the whole scare of having, you know, the silvers running out of well-aged bourbons.

Well, this is an iconic bottle, really, if you think about it. You know, it's not that old. You wear has a beautiful eagle on the front. You almost screams America, right? For a Native American spirit. Super beautiful bottle. I say let's go ahead and taste this thing now. Let's do it, Jim. Let's do it.

I love that nose on it. I hit the nose first. My little windy out here right now. I don't know if people can hear the wind, but there's music in the background. There's a lot of activity going on here. We're at a little side pool here to try and keep the noise down a little bit, but the wind is really picked up here.

Now I get the out of this Burma right here. I get a little bit of that Oak for 10 years. You're going to get a little bit of chocolate on it. Just a, I'd say Cocoa Puffs cereal. That chocolate, that old vanilla, some burnt caramel on there.

Yep. Chocolatey, caramel, sweet. A little bit of like raisinets, kind of a chocolate chocolate covered raisins. That dark fruit. Yeah. I want to take a sip now. Cheers, everyone. Cheers. Yeah, there's some. That's a fine whiskey, Mike. That's always a fine whiskey. Anytime you get your hands on a bottle of Igorere, it's something you need to grab. The flavors on it are kind of well-balanced between well-aged, oaky kind of flavor, and then a more sweet, subtle, bold, kind of younger bourbon that's kind of fits right in that saddle, right in the middle, right where you want your bourbon to be.

So in the bourbon community getting stopped just because we left Kentucky, right? They kept going. They keep going. To my surprise. I thought they just stopped because we left. They stopped distilling whiskey. Cool thing about it is, though, is the Kentucky Bourbon Festival is going to be in full swing this year and they sold out within days. of them releasing their tickets. Yeah.

So it's not the same old show that we're used to. It's a new deal this year and the word got out.

Well, it's going to be, you got to be over 21 to get in. It's that craft fair is going away. more of an adult theme, you know, where they're going to have some vendors out there, but it's not going to be that country fare theme anymore, where you had that before with hay bales and mom and pop vendors out there. I think they're still have some bourbon related vendors, but they'll have more music.

But you want to have cell phone vendors and AT&T and all that kind of stuff is all going to be bourbon related.

Yeah. All bourbon related, some great names in there. Don't want to miss it. Even if you haven't gotten tickets yet, I would still try to travel there and check it out. It's still worth the travel. And if you're not there, there's other great things to do in Kentucky. The, the still res don't shut down. They just send boots there.

And that's another thing that kind of has made it a little bit different. Now, you know, now they've got a few more hotels down there. Got a few more restaurants. The Bottle and Bond Kitchen is always good. That was available last time, but you know, that's definitely someplace to go. If you can't get into the festival, definitely get to the Bottle and Bond Kitchen.

Get down to Heaven Hill and take a tour. Yeah, you want to come anyways. It's a great time to be on the Bourbon Trail that time of year. It's still kind of warm. I still wish they would have kept it in October, but more of a bourbon, not a bourbon festival, but an Oktoberfest for bourbon. You know, me and you went down there two years ago and it was, it seemed like it was 105 degrees. But you know, I guess they wanted to keep with their theme and go back to September. So I still think that's cool. Other big news is that Heaven Hill doesn't like that Wally Dant and the Dant family is starting up log steel distillery.

You know, I kind of surprised by that because it seemed like the Dant family had taken an extra care not to cross over the line, right?

I think they have. I think, you know, me and you talked about presidents, we've talked about this and discussed it. And Heaven Hill has let other names use names in the past yeah so you kind of wonder about that why now i understand they got to protect protect their product but at the same time um is it a david versus goliath it's business that's what it boils down to and stuff we'll see how it boils out and i think people are divided on what they think about it

I think it's funny business, trademark protection. You know, certainly companies who have trademarks that need to be protected, it's kind of a double-edged sword. You don't want to sue everybody because it's expensive and it takes time and it kind of makes you look like a bully, right?

That's what, that's what everybody, I think a lot of people are going to perceive it as unless you're a business person and you have your own business and you've been through that trademark protection. And I think it's all about how the Dan family used that legacy on their website. From what I've read about it in a couple of articles, that's what the suit's all about. Like I said, it's been used before that. I think the dance sold that the story back in 1943 in the middle of world war II. Right. Um, and that it's been sold several times since then. I don't remember what the exact year haven't healed bought it, but them owning it. Do they own the Dan family name? Could you imagine that Shannon company and somebody coming and you say, you can't use that.

Well, the thing is, is you know, they, they, it's, it's about market confusion, you know, so they're trying to prevent market confusion. And I was mentioning earlier, you know, the double edged sword. Well, the double edged sword is one on one hand, you're perceived as a bully because you're suing everybody for everything. On the other hand, if you don't do that, Then when you do have to go to battle over a trademark violation, the judge looks at it and says, well, you didn't defend that one two years ago. Why are you fighting now? Yeah. So they got to play a very careful game with their attorneys. And, uh, I don't know, I don't know where to put the blame. I don't know how it's going to pan out in the end. I kind of like what, uh, the Dan family is doing. I think it's something exciting. They got to have that, uh, that nice experience down there.

And that's a whole Napa Valley experience. They're going to do a bed and breakfast there. They're going to have. an amphitheater for music, the distillery itself, the tasting room. And I believe they're going to have a restaurant down there. That would be nice to see in that area. Kind of those old distilleries coming back. It's on the original grounds. They got the old water tower there with the Dent family name on it. Pretty cool. I think that's a cool experience. I think something Heaven Hill should embrace. Everybody there in Barstown needs to embrace that. Bring

barstown out of the 1950s bring it in to the 2020s make it that experience where more people are able to come to the bourbon trail oh one more thing about this eagle rare now this particular pick is called joe bonds rare i don't know a whole lot about the pick itself what i do know is the finish is very long on this at least medium long and uh because as we're sitting here talking it took a while before i needed to reach for another sip i mean it was like it was there it was holding on it was hanging on and it's kind of hanging on with that bit of an oaky finish yeah well you see my glasses empty we both got a really good pour because we're not worried about going to work we're not worried about driving or anything we're just standing in the pool we have one job today you're almost neck level deep

I'm about chest level deep. I'm treading water to keep my microphone above water. What I'd say about these, if you can get an Eagle Rare, don't pass it up. A regular bottle will cost you around $33 in the store. If you see it, snatch it up. They're well worth the money. I think you paid $53 to $56 for this one.

Mid fifties for a pick, which is, in my opinion, for a 10 year old bourbon 90 proof, a little bit allocated, hard to find, you know. So it's very rare to find an Eagle rare on the shelf in the store. So when you do, I would suggest you snap it up. Don't buy too many of them. Leave some for somebody else to grab one, but definitely get you one for sure.

Yeah. Why not? Especially from a place like Doc Crows. If you haven't been to downtown Kentucky or if you haven't been to downtown Louisville and stopped Doc Crows, if you're traveling to Louisville, Right down the road from Old Forester is Doc Crowes. You can go in there and get a great bite to eat. It's southern cooking. You get barbecue. You can get hamburgers. You can get a steak in there. great place to eat, great entertainment. Stop in there, check them out. You can get a store pick. Like you said, they usually have four or five on the shelf there right as you walk in. Don't think those are just for drinking, they're for buying. Right, Jim? That's right. That's right.

So this, this show we're recording right now, it'll air on Wednesday the 14th. Is that right? Yep. Wednesday the 14th. So if you're listening to the show on Wednesday, the 14th, you can be one. The one thing could be, you can know for sure. Mike and I are in a pool. on the coast of Mexico and we've got a drink in our hand.

I probably have a Bloody Mary in one hand and a Coors light in another one.

Or, or I've seen you stack two Coors lights in one hand.

drink out of one of them. And as soon as it's gone, the one underneath story to take over or it doesn't get cold. It doesn't get, it doesn't get warm. So I can, I guess I can kind of do that. Well, let's stick with us in the second half. You know, the weed, the king of Kentucky probably bought some weed and bourbon to Mexico with me. So stick with us. We'll be right back. All right.

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Yeah, what do they call you? A weeded king of Kentucky. Weller 107, some people call it the antique. What's the other terms for it?

Weller 107, it's a red label. You know, they call it the red label Weller. It used to be old Weller antique.

Yeah, it's a different bottle today. This one actually has a cork. They went to that cork with a yellow foil or gold foil on it. Screw top for the longest time, right? Yeah. Screw top whiskey. A lot of people consider it a bottom shelf. Now you can barely find it. You can barely find those. I picked that bottle up in Oklahoma city. I probably, if I could have just got rid of my clothes and just brought all that back, I probably would have. Maybe it would have been too happy with me. But, um, I brought back a couple bottles, brought that bottle with me to Mexico. If people don't know who William LaRue Weller, he is the godfather of weeded bourbon. Supposedly he's the first guy to make weeded bourbon because of weeded bread. 1849 is when he first came out with his weeded bourbon. And you know how the old story goes, he would put a green thumb on it because people kept saying, hey, this is his whiskey and it wasn't. So he'd put his green thumbprint on the barrel. That way people could tell it was his whiskey. Now, I think all the whiskeys that came from him, right? Because he had Stitzel Weller. That was his distillery. Right. So Pappy Van Winkle, he worked for him. Supposedly the Samuels worked for him too. So you can think of all those brands that came from William LaRue Weller, right? Right.

So back in the 1800s, before bottles came along, everybody drank whiskey out of a cask, out of a Barrel, yeah. So the barrels would be stacked up behind the bartender, right? And when you said, when you looked up there, you'd say, give me that well or that green thumb well or up there, the green dot well or whatever it was, right?

You could almost guarantee that it didn't have spit in it. It was his whiskey. Right. It was his weeded bourbon. Now, a lot of people say that weeded bourbon is a little softer, has more floral notes to it. It's more approachable. I think at a hundred and seven proof, it can get some spice to it. Right. A little bit of fire, maybe a little bit of fire cinnamon. You know, that's the one of the reasons I like it has those floral notes on it, has that light fruit flavoring to it. It's just a lovely bourbon. Well, let's check out this bottle. Let's do it. That nose, you can smell them floral notes and there are almost some roses in there to me. It's light fruit like peach or a little bit of honey in there.

Yeah, I'm getting a little bit of, I'm getting a little bit of, it's soft up front, but it's got the bite in the mid palate. I'm getting that fruit. I'm getting a little bit of cherry though, for me. I get a little bit of cherry typically when I drink a weller. This one's got a little bit more of like a cherry mixed with something. It might be, like you said, like a peach, like peach cherry, kind of.

The oak is there where this one too, that spice on the tongue, it just kind of grabs, holds your tongue and says, hey, I'm a good whiskey. We've told a bunch of people down here about drinking whiskey and they're like, I don't like whiskey. You know, I used to shoot it back in the day. Well, it was really not a shooter whiskey. It's more of a, let me sip on you, relax and enjoy the flavors inside this thing. Now we're breaking a few pool rules here because we've got our Glen Karens with us. Just a couple. We're probably, we're in a privileged pool too. And I don't think we got the privilege package, but Hey, the Bourbon road has done taken over here at the Valentine Imperial Mayan then on the Riviera Maya of Mexico. Having a great time down here. Great people. Just a beautiful resort. If you're going to come to an on-clusive, you don't want to bring your kids. This is the place to come to, Jeff.

Yeah. And they, and they've got, uh, they've got top shelf liquors here, which is different than a lot of places you go, right?

Yeah. If you going to come to somewhere, some resorts we've went to won't have that top shelf. They have the top shelf here. You might have to ask for it. You know, you've seen me drink a little bit of vodka this week. I like Grey Goose too. And they keep it in the freezer here. They keep it cold for me. I go up there and ask for it. But I know my wife was drinking some rum and you're drinking. What kind of gin were you drinking? Tangeray. Tangeray.

Was that top shelf? I don't know if Tangeray is top shelf. I mean, there's certainly some gins that are above it on the shelf. But Tangeray would be considered a premium brand. It's you know, it's it's not Beefeater. You know, it's not Bombay. It's a little bit. It's a little bit higher on the shelf, I think.

Yeah, I'd like to see them get more bourbons here, but I could see how, you know, when you're at a paradise place like this, you don't really want to drink bourbons. I kind of wish they would have them for a bourbon mimosa in the morning with some champagne, orange juice, bourbon, or you can get an old fashioned at the bar or something. You know, drinking a good bourbon in old fashioned compared to just drinking beam, not the beam's bad or anything. It's still good, but it would be nice to see that.

I can hear them over there in the other pool. I think you're missing your pool yoga session. I don't think I'm missing that.

I think that's an exercise bike. I don't want nothing to do with that thing. This is about as much exercise. I'm going to get days of lifting this glass.

Yeah. I guess my morning exercise includes, uh, you know, drinking a nice big cold drink and watching them do the bikes. You know, not, not me. That's a, that's a lot of work watching. I got up at five 30 this morning.

Got chairs. I was that shy enough.

Walk down the beach, took a beautiful photo of suburban bottles and stuff.

The thing I liked about the Weller 107 than a Weller regular, you know, if you're just drinking Weller special reserve, you get a little bit of that. You know, we did bourbon flavors and stuff, but you don't get everything with this. Right here, you get that cinnamon spice, everything nice. Yep. Some cereal notes in there a little bit. A little bit of a hug on this one though. Just a little bit. It's going down.

You get a little bit of a chest burn. Little chest burn there. Kentucky hug, but not too much. The finish on this one is medium, but it's a good finish. It's got a great flavor to it. That oak's coming through now. Weller 107 is typically around seven years old. The barrels are usually, you know, tapped when they're about seven years old, which is a good age. We always say six to 12, right?

And they've come out with more Wellers in the past year or two. You know, you got Weller full proof, you got Weller single barrel, you got CYPB, which is a fan favorite. A lot of people beat it up. Me and you tasted it. We both loved it. We're like, we don't know why people are beating this stuff up. Yeah. um a lot of times it's because people it's it's allocated they can't get it it makes them mad so when they do get to taste it they're like ah that's crap you know it just makes them feel better about not being able to get it well there's a lot of good other good bourbons out there if you can't get some allocated stuff try some craft bourbons all that craft bourbon out there is super delicious super good you can find it Usually in your local area, there'll be a distillery that'll have something. Now you told me some other news that just came out, Jim, about Sazerac. Yeah.

So, um, so news press release released by Sazerac. Uh, I got it in my email either late yesterday or early this morning. um so everybody remembers the early times brand it's a bottle and bond brand was from brown forming ahead ahead the the blue label it's always a crowd favorite good solid juice uh always able to get then it came in liter bottles instead of 750 so you could get it for around 22 for a liter that's pretty good price and it was good solid bourbon right

That is a good solid bourbon. It's not a bad price. Everybody was scared. Everybody started buying it up off the shelf. We had to wonder if they were just going to do away with the brand.

They put it on the shelf, right?

You know, they got it on their stockpile. Say, hey, we might pull this out 20 years if we need it. But they didn't. They knew people liked it. Hey, that's a smart move right there. I just wonder when are they going to switch over to their juice? When are they going to switch over to Barton juice?

Well, you know, 1792 produces some fantastic whiskey. We know that. And most of their stocks that we've tasted in the past have all been around six, seven, eight years, except for that 12 year bottle, the 1792 12 year. But even at six, seven and eight years, fantastic liquid, really delicious. They have a bottle and bond there too. Anyway, Sazerac is going to produce at the 1792 Barton Distillery. They're going to produce that bottle now. And I'm gonna expect it's gonna be pretty darn tasty. I think it'll be a little more fiery, right? You think it'll have more price? Add some price to it? I think they will. I think they will. I think they'll probably release it. My guess is probably in the $30 range. I didn't read the whole press release, by the way. I probably should have. But that's good news because, you know, they could have produced that at a lot of places. But $17.92 bottle and bond release I think would be delicious.

Well, I can't, I can't. disagree with you there. I'm glad that they stayed with that and they're coming out with, we traveled down here, Jim, and we brought our distillery product, Glencairn's, with us. We're drinking out of them today. But another company had sent us some stuff, Snoop Glass, sent us some stainless steel Glencairn's, almost looking like Glencairn, right? They call it their Snoop Neat Glass. Stainless steel, it looks wood grain. Pool safe. Pool safe, travel safe. You could stick a mini bottle in there to travel with and you'll be just fine. Not that better speedos in there, too. I don't know. I don't know. My speedos are good in there, Jim. Too big, too big. So they take in a you buy that on Amazon. Great price. Check them out. Great for travel. I like that because these Glencairns are very delicate, right? You've broke a couple probably. I broke just a few. Yeah. I know I've, I've broke several of them and stuff. They're nice to have that don't travel well. I don't, we traveled down here though. They made them through customs. They made them through TSA. I packed it really good and said like three pair of socks and underwear there too. Not, no, not underwear. What about your Speedo? Did your Speedo fit in your Glencairn?

Speedos a while back.

They're happy that we have seen some speedos here since we've been here. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how they do it. Some guy scoots right up next to him. I said, Hey man, six foot buddy, six foot, get away.

We need to social distance. Yeah. Get away from me.

Well, Jim, Hey, what a great episode to just hang out at the pool with you this week. Um, drink a little bit of bourbon, drink a whole bunch of Coors lights, drink some fruity drinks, drink, whatever the hell we wanted to cause all paid for. Right. That's right.

And if you're listening to this episode, You got your Google Maps up. Just put in Imperial Mine Riviera Resort and zoom in on the satellite view and look for that big long pool in the middle towards the, I guess it'd be the west end of the pool. There's a little hut bar. That's where Mike and I are.

So if you want to zoom in and see where we're at, we're right there at the earth bar. Right at the earth bar. Come down here. It's not a bad place to be. Great place to get a tan, meet nice people. drink some bourbon in the pool, roadies, roadies. So, yeah.

So, hey, where can people find us on social media, Jim? Well, you can find us on all social media. You can find us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube. TikTok. We're a little bit on TikTok. Yeah, yeah. But anyway, you can find us on all the social media. We are at The Bourbon Road. We also have a website called thebourbonroad.com. What do we got on there, Mike?

So we got our articles we write on there. Not about our episodes so much. Sometimes just our thoughts of what's going on. Sometimes I'll write a blog just about a town like Bardstown or Louisville or Lexington or Frankfurt and tell you our top three places on there. Look for those articles. We have our reviews that Adam Boothbay puts up there for us. Check those reviews out. If you're about to buy a whiskey, usually it's a craft whiskey, but sometimes we'll put a big boy on there. Like we reviewed, uh, old granddad bottled and bond the other day. We put that up there. So that's something that's really available. If you can't find one of those crafts, check those reviews out. You can also find our flag on there. We have our bourbon bullshit or t-shirt. We have our hats. We have our glasses and soon, we promise you soon, we'll have our Bourbon Road t-shirts on there. And hopefully we'll have some Bourbon Roadie t-shirts too, just for our roadies. Probably a special order thing. And we're looking into our second Bourbon pick. So that will be on our website. It won't be on Facebook. We'll announce it on Facebook, but you'd have to go to our website to check it out.

So we're going to hold everything over there just to keep within the rules a little bit, right? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. All right. So, Mike, you know, people have heard us mentioned several times during the show. Roadies are here. Roadies are there. Roadies listen in. What's a roadie?

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That's right. And 156 or so episodes now. So we're cranking them out twice a week. Twice a week. We do two shows a week. We do one on Mondays where we talk about a craft distillery. We try to raise up somebody that's really Trying to, you know, rise up and get out of the obscurity and let everybody know about their brand. So we'll, we'll have a craft to still around once a week. Sometimes it's a big boy. Like Mike said, we also do a full length episode where we interview somebody or we just sit in a pool and drink bourbon and Quintana Roo Mexico.

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